Stupids cars, I hate them so much.

[97GrandMarquis]

So this is less asking for advice more just telling a story. So while replacing the front brake pads I was tightening the caliper alignment bolts using the torque value listed in the Chilton's manual, 45-65 ft-lbs, and the bolt on the drivers side lower just kept turning and turning. It won't back out and won't pull out. Fortunately the other one simply snapped. So, I think the torque value was wrong for my vehicle. I am kinda upset. I was furious, but I am better now. I ordered new slides and bolts, and I feel a little better now. So, if any of you know anything I don't (always possible I suppose) go ahead and write it. Or, if anyone has a that sucks I will be happy with that too. I you want to call me stupid, I am married, consider that job unavailable.

[JCG1]

I you want to call me stupid, I am married, consider that job unavailable.


IF? IF?
Aye, I do indeed . . .

and cm'on, she's gotta need some backup or relief by now. :lol3:
it looks like there's alot of overtime available

Oh yeah.
That sucks . . .
If you rely on Chilton's (or can't read properly)
If you could just have your wife step aside for a second here . . .
I notice that her shoe fits that indent in your head . . . WHAM

Per Haynes (P.9-2)

Brake Caliper (front) bolts
[in foot-pounds, obviously)
1988 through 1991 = 40 - 60
1992 through 1996 = 45 - 65 (what you tightened to)
1997 and later = 21 - 26 (what you should have tightened to)

So you can see how and why those fastners let go, right?
Back to your wife's regularly scheduled programming.

Welcome, btw. Consider yourself hazed. :cheers:

[edit]bet your chilton's was published in 96. NOTE: that Haynes data above is from a 2000 edition so that "and later" should actually read "1997 through 2000". The spec might be good for 2000-2003, maybe even past 2003 after the frame revision; who knows? BUT IT'S NOT RELIABLE INFO PAST THE DATE IT WAS PRINTED which in the case of that Haynes quote above is 2000.

[ronman]

I've never tightened any caliper to 50lb/ft. That's just crazy.

[turbodiesel]

This job required common sense.. not a chilton's manual.

[97GrandMarquis]

Yeah, I definately tightened them to what I felt was right, and then let the manual beat common sense. The manual is listed for my year but definately didn't give different values. So I don't completely blame the manual, I should have known better. However things do feel different with a 18" torque wrench. Oh yes, and I appreciate the comic relief, my choice was either to get mad about or kinda chuckle and move on. I got mad but figured you all deserved the chance to chuckle. Anyway, I gotta go pick up my new parts. And finally, I have proven that 55 lbs is indeed crazy and more importanly higher than the bolts are built for.

[JCG1]

Hey, I have an idea for a sig for you:

MY CALIPER BOLTS ARE TIGHTER THAN THE LUGNUTS ON RETARDED RYAN'S . . .

oh never mind.

[97GrandMarquis]

Those bolts can be as tight as they want in whatever landfill they end up in. I have washed my hands of them. They couldn't live by my rules an therefore couldn't live in my house.